Barack Obama is elected President

[Guest Ret.Maj.Xander=US=]

It was a race for the ages, I for one am glad I followed it so closely and watched much of it happen. I look forward to telling my kids about this election because it was historic. I have to commend John McCain for his concession speech, was very respectful and moving. Our nation needs to come together he said, stop with the red and blue and work together. I am, for once, optimistic about the future. And I'm looking forward to the years to come.

[Guest RET.1LT.Antiochus=US=]

"stop with the red and blue and work together. " Seriously, so much hate was created from this election. People I know hate McCain for this or that and others Obama calling him a terrorist....One thing I can say I hate for this hate is the correct word is the way we run campaigns so negative inspiring people to do idiot things. I agree with you, I always though I'd be in my 60s before I saw a black person elected for President, my grandmother/dad/mom all thought they'd never live to see such a thing. Most always said "Americas not ready" well yesterday proved to be a MAJOR step forward in the history of the United States. I'm glad to be alive to see it.

[Guest CPT.Buckshot=US=]

I am a republican, I voted for McCain, and I respect the will of the country to elect Barack Obama. The Red and Blue needs to disappear now, we need to be optimistic for our future with Obama as our president. I think it will be kind of cool to have a president who seems to understands the nation, and hopefully who will listen to the nation as a whole and lead it for the people. He is definetely the most interesting Presidential Candidate I have ever seen, in a good way. I don't know about you, but I believe the people of this nation do need to come together and rally around Obama for the sake of the Red, White, and Blue.

[Guest RET.LTC.Skelly=US=]

Well I don't know about all this Red and Blue stuff, but I will still fight sociallism to my dieing breath. I know I will be called a racist biggot for it, but I honestly don't care. I'm a conservative, with conservative principles so I wil fight anything that goes against those principles. I got a long 4 years ahead, but hey I survived 8 years of Clinton and was born during the Carter years, so I'll survive Obama as well. I mean with God with me, I should worry about whose against me.

[Guest TermanatorXxX]

I really hope Obama sticks to his word to work efficiently with Republicans, as well as McCain and Palin looking forward to working with the Obama campaign. Right now we do not need Democrats vs Republicans, what we need is one nation coming together. If both parties can find it in them to agree to disagree on differences, then there is nothing that we cannot overcome. Another reason why I am optimistic, is that our nation has broken that racial barrier of the presidency, and hopefully that will bring about peace between races. Call me a hippie, but I believe peace is always an option if there is hope to support it.

[Guest RET.LTC.Skelly=US=]

Peace can only be obtained through victory. It works everytime it is tried. How can one agree to disagree and still work together in a Republic? If you say that you want to raise taxes and I say no, how can we work together? My disagreement to raise taxes will and should mean that I will not vote to raise taxes. Your belief to raise taxes is not going to make you lower taxes, so how do we work together? As far as the racial divide goes, there is no way that is going to stop people from crying klan member. If I disagree with Obama, the first thing that will happen is I will be called a racist becaue he is such a visionary. It couldn't possibly be based on policy. We saw that in the campaign, and it wont change now. I mean look at what you said, a black president. Why does it matter if he is black, hispanic, white, or Martian? I guess as long as he's not Irish though, right ;) (just kidding). No the race wars will always rage on as long as there is money to be made and excusses to be used. Obama will hopefully see a true conservative movement in 2 years like Clinton did, and then I'll feel a bit better. Viva la conservative revolution!

[Guest RET.GEN.Kraor]

The election is over and Obama won. It is time to put the election debates behind us and rally behind our new president, we can support him on the issues we agree on and try to convince him on the ones we don't. I am not bitter nor angry. I still believe in christian conservatism above all other political positions but most of all I believe in America as a democratic republic and that it is still the best form of government on the earth. I will pray for Obama and hope that he will make the right decisions as the leader of the most powerful country on earth. I am very proud to see that America as a majority has elected a minority to this office as I see it as a true sign that racism has been dealt a powerful blow. I appreciated your comment on McCain Xander.. I hope you see that conservatives are not a bunch of hateful, bigotted people. We are just as honorable, caring and polite as some on the other side of the fence. It is just the extremists that make both sides look bad.

[Guest RET.MAJ.Pugs]

yeah skelly i have to agree with you. Everytime I have said something negative about how obama wants to degrade the military and protection of the most hated country in the world i got called a racist. When I mentioned how he wants to make it harder for me to provide for my family so that the poor and lazy can get bigger welfare checks i get called a racist. Everytime I say, respect the 2nd amendment I get called a racist. Im tired of it. I dont care if he was purple or orange, he scares me. Im afraid for the country's safety and well being and I dont believe we need such a pansy, lets hold hands and sing, type of leader. I really hope for the sake of the country im wrong and he ends up seeing how the world really works and wises up. If not, canada is looking better and better all the time.

[Guest RET.MAJ.Navy=US=]

I normally never reply to political threads simply because they don't ever change anyone's mind, although they make us feel a bit better for making a post. Just a couple points.... I don't know where people get the idea that Senator Obama "wants to degrade the military", and I would love to see a quote or video clip that someone believes substantiates that. For what it's worth, his team already has a person receiving briefs from the Pentagon, and they have been open and receptive to the information that has been put forward. During the campaign, there was mention of a plan to withdraw combat forces over a 16 month period..... and I promise you, the good Senator didn't dream that up on his own. That plan has been rolling around the Pentagon for the past year. Nothing new, he just decided to float it out there. Trust me on this, the military has plenty of advocates in Congress, as well as major companies who live and die by defense contracts. No president will make any drastic cuts without hearing from plenty of people about it. The Navy tried on its own to cut back on a few destroyers and we were politely told by Congress we will take them and like them (which of course we are :+) ). My final silly thought before closing this post is to reflect back on someone else's great idea a few years back...... it was called "privatizing Social Security". Basically, we would invest money in the financial markets because we would all be richer as opposed to letting the government handle our money. Can anyone imagine what a disaster that would have become given the near collaps of Wall Street? People will contrinue to rant and rave, whine and complain about the fact that their guy lost. It's part of Americana, for better or for worse. I served this President proudly in the Armed Forces, and I will do the same for the next President. No one should ever think the military fights with any more or less enthusiasm because of who sits in the oval office. To be honest, I have more respect for my Admirals than any group of idiots sitting in DC..... although I am sitting in DC..... well anyway, you know what I mean.

[Guest RET.LTC.Skelly=US=]

Navy, I still would love to have Social Security Privatized. I'll tell you why. Lets start with the fact that it is my money, not yours, not his, not hers, mine. So I get to invest the way I want to. This year I have lost some money in my 401K, you know what, I'm not going to stop investing and put my money in the matress. The fact is that the market does go up and it goes down. Retirement is a marathon not a sprint. So I loose a lot now, but I gain it and more back later. I'm young so I take more risk, as I get older that risk goes lower, and I put my money in safer areas. I'll make more in the end that way. In the market, Bulls make money and Bears make money, but pigs get slaughtered. The people loosing their homes because of playing the market were the day trading pigs, hopefully they learn. Next reason for privatization is "CHANGE". For over 60 years the governement has taken my money and screwed the pooch with it. What is the take out age now, 78? (not really sure so I'm being hystaricle to prove a point) By the time I'm old enough to get the small stipens the Governement will pay, I'll be dead. That, or the amount will be so low that I wont be able to buy cat food to eat. (That reminds me, I need to get Grandma a new can opener for her Thanksgiving) The fact is the Messiah is prez now, but I don't have to like it. I just have to make the decision to pay more in taxes or go to jail. LOL. The Obama fans shoudl e cheering now, that's normal, go ahead I don't care. Just don't force me to have to agree with guy. Were's Roach, he would absolutely love this guy since he's a fellow Marxist. ;)

[Guest RET.GEN.Kraor]

On the issue of SSI and other government control vs. personal control, Skelly, it comes down to a simple belief difference... Some think that you are too stupid to have the choice of investing your social security in the market because you might make a bad decision and lose money.. (uh ehmm I think the Government took care of that already) They think people are too stupid to make their own way in life and that the government should tell you what to do, how to act, how much money you deserve not based on how hard you have worked, but on wht they randomly decide is "FAIR". Others believe that it is your RESPONSIBILTY to take care of yourself, LEARN how to make decisions, be RESPONSIBLE for your welfare and have the opportunity to better yourself. The pursuit of happiness is what you are given the freedom of having, you have to PURSUE it, that means you have a part to play in your happiness. The other belief system has you sitting on your rumpus awaiting a hand out. Basically its believing in "I CAN" or "I DESERVE". You can make a future for yourself, or you can wait on a hand-out.

[Guest Ret.Maj.Xander=US=]

[quote='Skelly','http://clanunknownsoldiers.com/hq/thread/?postID=41983#post41983']Well I don't know about all this Red and Blue stuff, but I will still fight sociallism to my dieing breath. I know I will be called a racist biggot for it[/quote] I wouldn't call you racist skelly, just ignorant. But personal bull**** aside, I find it sad that you are still taking pop shots at the president elect before he is even in office. Just seems like you can't accept what the American people want (strangely enough not everyone agrees with you). The Socialist/Marxist comments your making just makes it seem like your channeling Shaun Hannity, instead of thinking on your own.

[Guest Suls]

Since when has a president been able to pass everything they promise in their campaign? Wait and see the outcome. I would have voted McCain if I was old enough to vote, but alas, I can't. Regardless, I have faith in them both but time will tell if the majority of American voters chose right. On another note, we need all of our population voting. Because if I hear one more person complain about Bush when they didn't even vote while being perfectly able to 4/8 years ago, I'm going to spontaneously implode based on sheer frustration at pure ignorance and stupidity.

[Guest CPT.Buckshot=US=]

Redistributing wealth is a socialist idea

[Guest TermanatorXxX]

[quote='Skelly','http://clanunknownsoldiers.com/hq/thread/?postID=41989#post41989']Peace can only be obtained through victory. It works everytime it is tried. How can one agree to disagree and still work together in a Republic? If you say that you want to raise taxes and I say no, how can we work together? My disagreement to raise taxes will and should mean that I will not vote to raise taxes. Your belief to raise taxes is not going to make you lower taxes, so how do we work together? As far as the racial divide goes, there is no way that is going to stop people from crying klan member. If I disagree with Obama, the first thing that will happen is I will be called a racist becaue he is such a visionary. It couldn't possibly be based on policy. We saw that in the campaign, and it wont change now. I mean look at what you said, a black president. Why does it matter if he is black, hispanic, white, or Martian? I guess as long as he's not Irish though, right ;) (just kidding). No the race wars will always rage on as long as there is money to be made and excusses to be used. Obama will hopefully see a true conservative movement in 2 years like Clinton did, and then I'll feel a bit better. Viva la conservative revolution![/QUOTE] Your answer is in your statement. NEITHER party is willing to put their differences behind them, its not just one side.(Republicans: The Democrats do this wrong. Democrats: Nu uh, YOU'RE doing it wrong) <-- That is the kind of **** that D.C sounds like right now. We're all fending for ourselves when we should be working with each other (do NOT mistake that comment for the investing of money issue). And I never said anything negative, or positive about the race comment. But I said it to shed some light on maybe this will be the thing that puts a silence on the racial divide that still lingers among a select percentage of people in this nation and the world. If that still makes no sense to you, what Kraor said is what I am talking about. Racial fighting hopefully took a huge blow from this. No, it does not matter what race the president is to me, because I look at the person themselves, not their race. "Race wars" have no role in money being made. I know a ton of African-American people who are above middle class you could say? I also know poorer ones, I also know many whites; some are very rich, some are very poor. It's not about race, it's greed. Full-blown greed! Just because somebody may have a different religion than I, that does not make me hate them more. Just one has the same middle name as a commonly known dictator, that does not make me classify him as a terrorist. They are unique, they are human. It does not make you better than them because they do something different than you or me, it does not make them better than you. It makes them, them. I'm not going to argue my point any further; there's no point in debating when people vote for the candidate just because their a supporter of that party, not because of who the candidate actually is. And I say that because I know the "McCain is a better candidate because he's a part of the party that I support" answer. I'm sure if McCain would have spent more time speaking of what he intended to do, rather than ridicule his opponent to high hell, I'm more than positive he could have won, and I may have had more respect for him as well. But Obama kept his eyes on the prize (winning the election) and hit McCain with a few jabs but still focused on what he planned to do should he be elected president. I commend McCain greatly for how he handled his POW situation. But one honorable action is not enough to define a political leader so many years later in present day. How many Medal of Honor recipients have there been, in the Iraq war alone? Just because they got awarded medals for their honorable actions, should we put all of them up for the race for the White House? I'm not saying he's a bad person. But as with you not liking Obama, you're called a racist...for me not liking McCain, all of a sudden I'm classified as one who isn't for the troops, when I'm going to be one in the near future!! So yes, that really fries my cookies when that is said.

[Guest RET.GEN.Kraor]

Oh please... Obama and McCain had many amounts of jabs at each other.. Both of them expressed their plans and both of them focused on their campaign. McCain could have focused on Obama's ties with Bill Ayers and his preacher Wright, but he didn't. Obama played the I voted with Bush 90% of the time crap more times than I can count. The point is, they were both guilty of negative ad campaigning so lets not split hairs here. And as far as his patriotic act, that one act lasted for years of torture with an offer get out that he turned down because he wouldn't leave the people he was the leader of, so yes in my book that does qualify him as a leader. Its his work afterwards that qualified him to run in the election, and he would have tried just as hard at it that I am sure Obama will. Instead of trying to further divides here, lets use an Obama initiative and reach out to both sides and put a rest to the divisions. and before you criticize me for this, remember I am a conservative that voted against Obama based on my beliefs and his not lining up, but I am saying stop bickering and rally behind our country and its new leader.

[Guest RET.LTC.Skelly=US=]

Nevermind. I see the light, Praise the Messiah Obama. Oh glory be. I will never have to pay my mortgage, pay for a car, or worry about gas prices. He will change it all. :LOL: Hope that makes everyone feel better. ;)

[Guest Ret.Maj.Xander=US=]

[quote='MG.Kraor','http://clanunknownsoldiers.com/hq/thread/?postID=42038#post42038']Oh please... Obama and McCain had many amounts of jabs at each other.. Both of them expressed their plans and both of them focused on their campaign. McCain could have focused on Obama's ties with Bill Ayers and his preacher Wright, but he didn't. Obama played the I voted with Bush 90% of the time crap more times than I can count. [/QUOTE] Are you kidding? McCain ads were completely awful and distasteful and instead of promoting McCain ideas they just ripped on Obama with whatever the media gave them that week. PARIS HILTON AND BRITTANY SPEARS DON'T BELONG IN POLITICAL ADS. I honestly can't believe you think that the "jabs" were equal. Could you imagine what the neo-cons would do if Biden's daughter was pregnant, not married, and under 18? They would do everything in their power to slander the Obama campaign. But no it was Palin's daughter so the neo-cons had to leave it alone and sweep it under the rug, while Obama said: [quote]"Let me be as clear as possible, I think people's families are off-limits, and people's children are especially off-limits. This shouldn't be part of our politics. It has no relevance to Gov. Palin's performance as governor or her potential performance as a vice president."[/quote] I'm sorry but if you think the republicans would've done the same thing your living in a fantasy world. Reminds me of the race for the senate seat in NC this year between Kay Hagen and Elizabeth Dole. Here is a youtube clip of Dole's attack on Hagen with Hagen's response right after. [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EfvTIJU5bU[/url] (Hagen took the seat from Dole this year btw) Now it pisses me off that even if she was an atheist, I don't understand how that makes you less of an American. The separation of church and state seems like it's starting to fade with people. There was a reason it was put in place people should respect that.

[Guest CPT.Buckshot=US=]

Dude, the left-leaning media-bias played on Palin's daughter as much as it could, the American public just didn't see it as a negative. They played the age and inexperienced cards on McCain and Palin all the time. And they gave much more coverage to Obama on charity visits and such, only showing McCain at campaign stops. You can't say that the Neo-cons treated Obama unfairly, they don't control the world's media.

[Guest Ret.Maj.Xander=US=]

lol right the world's media is the reason for more people showing up for Obama's speech in Berlin? You think it was the world media who for some reason all favored Obama just to spite McCain? People say Obama has minimal foreign relations, then why did most of the WORLD support him? From Europe to Asia, populations of many countries saw Obama as the better choice. People all over the world are being less hostile to Americans and don't see us as war mongering profiteers. As American's we know thats not true but how do you feel about the civilians of North Korea? Russia? Cuba?...we look at those people by their government/president and they do the same to us. Our popularity with the world was falling as quick as Bush's approval rating. This election changed that, and not just american's celebrated this, but much of the world. A good article that talks about this can be read here: [url]http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081105/ap_on_re_eu/eu_election_an_american_abroad[/url] Also I don't think this would've happened if McCain was elected: [url]http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/11/06/ahmadinejad-offers-obama-landmark-congratulations/[/url]

[Guest CPT.Buckshot=US=]

George W. Bush's image is the reason Obama is supported, keep in mind that we have had 2 years of a Democrat-controlled Senate and House and the government in general is worse now than ever. Our War in Iraq is looked upon unfavorably by the world as it is. To them, we are a two-faced nation, our leader dictates the side of us they see. To them, anybody against the war, against policing the world in general, will be looked favorably upon by the majority of the world. Most of the world hinges on us as a nation, of course they are going to know about and have opinions on who our leader should be. Also, and possibly my final and most important point...the rest of the world is signifigantly more liberal than the United States of America.

[Guest CPT.Buckshot=US=]

[QUOTE][url]http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081105/ap_on_re_eu/eu_election_an_american_abroad[/url][/QUOTE] I don't know what you guys think, but this article is about as un-American as I have ever seen. This guy, who is living oversees, is ashamed of being American, tells his kids to be as inconspicuously American as possible, and tells people he is french or dutch or something other than American. Then when Obama gets elected he is proud and unashamed to be an American. It's one thing to be embarrassed or ashamed for your countries actions, but another completely when your country gets some approval from the people around you, you just all of the sudden become a patriotic American? Coward. Lieing about your origin, and telling your children to do the same, so that somebody won't call you a name? Pathetic.

[Guest Ret.Maj.Xander=US=]

Buckshot there are places that do not like Americans...period. They will hurt them, rob them, kill them even in certain places in the world. He loves his family more than anything, and if they have to lie to protect them, then they have to. Anyone will agree with that. The fact that your trying to stand out as a model American in never denying your origin even in the risk of your families safety, is ridiculous. Just because someone protects their family by saying they aren't American, does not mean they aren't proud to be Americans. The article explains how other countries think of us and the extremes they will go to try and prove a point. And when Obama got elected this man felt safer in that foreign nation due to how the public in that country responded. And in case someone didn't listen to Obamas acceptance speech I just wanted to share this excerpt: [quote]As Lincoln said to a nation far more divided than ours, "We are not enemies, but friends…though passion may have strained it must not break our bonds of affection." And to those Americans whose support I have yet to earn -- I may not have won your vote, but I hear your voices, I need your help, and I will be your President too.[/quote]

[Guest CPT.Buckshot=US=]

[quote='Ret.Xander=US=','http://clanunknownsoldiers.com/hq/thread/?postID=42062#post42062']Buckshot there are places that do not like Americans...period. They will hurt them, rob them, kill them even in certain places in the world. He loves his family more than anything, and if they have to lie to protect them, then they have to. Anyone will agree with that. The fact that your trying to stand out as a model American in never denying your origin even in the risk of your families safety, is ridiculous.[/QUOTE] Those places aren't Vienna, Austria, as he stated in his article...and anyway, if you don't feel safe...move.

[Guest Ratio]

I know a lot of people who are Obama Supporters and I know a lot of Mccain supporters but when it all comes down to it Obama got enough people to vote for him..He is going to be the President of the United States he still deserves respect...when people say nasty, disrespectful things..I think of it as disrespect to the nation.