Graphics card question.

[Guest Doubleome]

Oke thnx. But how u mean with vista or ur secondary disk ? And cant Xp do DX 10 ? And U said 32MB and 64MB, was that typo. Since havnt been able to find 64MB anywhere.

[Guest Sharp]

xp cannot do DX10 i think and i run the same thing i have xp and vista on my machine and if i want to run vista i just restart my computer and change my primary boot up drive. i dont think there is much difference between the 32 and 16 but if price is a problem 16 should be fine i think?

[Guest Doubleome]

Well atm I got 2x about 56euro 16MB cache disk. And found my self a 79 euro 32MB cache disk. Since im willing to pay that 2x 20euro if its worth it. And is DX10 much difference from DX9. Atleast worth getting vista for ? This is what I got put together so far. [url]http://www.azerty.nl/producten/product_detail/125/42614/barracuda-7200-11-.html[/url] Harddisk. 2x [url]http://azerty.nl/producten/product_detail/160/58489/nx8800gt-t2d512e-oc.html[/url] Graphics card. [url]http://www.azerty.nl/producten/product_detail/291/56577/core-2-duo.html[/url] CPU. [url]http://www.azerty.nl/producten/product_detail/51/33476/sonata-iii.html[/url] Case+powersupply. [url]http://www.azerty.nl/producten/product_detail/81/10520/mugen-infinity-.html[/url] CPU cooler. [url]http://www.azerty.nl/producten/product_detail/174/36567/khx6400d2-1g.html[/url] Memory 3x [url]http://www.azerty.nl/producten/product_detail/89/56959/p5e.html[/url] Motherboard. [url]http://www.azerty.nl/producten/product_detail/?ID=51236[/url] Case fan. Atm got 32bit xp OS. But still thinking. Cost+OS=941.46 euro

[Guest gamerk2]

Right now, only a few games can run DX10, and unless you have a decent core2 CPU (unlike me...), you won't even be able to run DX10 well. It's pretty, for sure, but it will be some time before DX10 only games come out. Probably not until mid 2009, if not later.

[Guest Doubleome]

Oke cool thnx U all for the information. 1.5 weeks of figuring out what to pick :) I chanced my mind like 15 times in that time :)

[Guest Doubleome]

I just cant make up my mind. Im cant decide which I gonna take. Been checking tests and they all vary. [url]http://www.azerty.nl/producten/product_detail/160/58476/geforce-8800gt-amp.html[/url] [url]http://www.azerty.nl/producten/product_detail/160/62075/nx8800gt-t2d256e-oc.html[/url] [url]http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/details.html?articleId=-1061083&showTechData=true[/url] [url]http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/details.html?articleId=-1067904&showTechData=true[/url] From all tests it seems this 1 is the best. [url]http://www.azerty.nl/producten/product_detail/?ID=59767&GROEP_ID=160&TAB=ervaring[/url] Srry its all dutch sites but this is where im getting em from and never know if link from other side is same card.

[Guest gamerk2]

[url]http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/details.html?articleId=-1061083&showTechData=true[/url] I've been a fan of XFX for a while now, and the extra 256MB of RAM (768MB Total) will give noticable preformance boosts, even though the clock speed is a little lower. This: [url]http://www.azerty.nl/producten/product_detail/?ID=59767&GROEP_ID=160&TAB=specificaties[/url] and this: [url]http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/details.html?articleId=-1067904&showTechData=true[/url] would be the next two i would get, in order. Don't even bother with this one: [url]http://www.azerty.nl/producten/product_detail/160/62075/nx8800gt-t2d256e-oc.html[/url] which only comes with 256MB Ram, unless you are on a tight budget.

[Guest Sharp]

have you heard of a site called new egg, you can get some good deals there but i dont know what your price range is but they got some deals. [url]www.newegg.com[/url]

[Guest gamerk2]

I don't think they ship overseas...at least, not for cheap. Besides, its the same stuff, just diffrent providers. I can usually find better deals on other sites, although i use newegg for refrence alot.

[Guest Doubleome]

And there we go again :) Same price but some1 said GTS is better then GTX. [url]http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/details.html?articleId=-1066746&showTechData=true[/url]

[Guest gamerk2]

The GTX is better, hands down, especially if the GTX model has 768MB RAM. Some companies may try to increase the default clock speed to make GTS's a bit better, but the GTX models are almost always better. [url]http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/details.html?articleId=-1061083&showTechData=true[/url] Still blows away what you just listed, for the same price too. Getting a GTS when you can get a GTX, with more RAM, for the same price would be a bad buy, in my opinion. The only thing the other card you listed beat the above card in was clock speed, which was only 50Mhz faster, while to XFX GTX model has an extra 256MB RAM.

[Guest Sharp]

if i was you i would listen to gamerk sounds like he knows what he is talking about, and i just ordered two XFX GeForce 9600 SLI compatable for my rig, hopefully i didnt waste my money, cant wait to see the results. [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150277[/url]

[Guest gamerk2]

[quote='PV2.Slayersharpshot=US=','http://clanunknownsoldiers.com/hq/thread/?postID=28377#post28377']if i was you i would listen to gamerk sounds like he knows what he is talking about, and i just ordered two XFX GeForce 9600 SLI compatable for my rig, hopefully i didnt waste my money, cant wait to see the results. [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150277[/url][/QUOTE] For it's price, the 9600 is a great upgrade over any non-8800 card, although it does lack DX 10.1 support (as does all NVIDIA cards at the moment). From what i've read, two of these in SLI give almost as good preformance as lower 8800 GTS models would.

[Guest Doubleome]

Gamerk2 What if I would say. 8800GTX. Or 9800GTX [url]http://www.azerty.nl/producten/product_detail/?ID=71331&GROEP_ID=160[/url] Its about 50 euro more expensive. But playing CoD4 as main game guess its waste of money. But it seems like an **** imba card. Although in while 8800GTX prolly gets bit cheaper and could do SLI.

[Guest Sharp]

i know its amazing the jump from a 6800 XT to a 9600 i can run COD4 on max everything im so pumped and no more overheating so far ( played for about 6 hours already and no heat problem)

[Guest gamerk2]

[quote='SFC.Doubleome','http://clanunknownsoldiers.com/hq/thread/?postID=28391#post28391']Gamerk2 What if I would say. 8800GTX. Or 9800GTX [url]http://www.azerty.nl/producten/product_detail/?ID=71331&GROEP_ID=160[/url] Its about 50 euro more expensive. But playing CoD4 as main game guess its waste of money. But it seems like an **** imba card. Although in while 8800GTX prolly gets bit cheaper and could do SLI.[/QUOTE] I would actually go with the 8800. The 9800 GTX is a good card, but really doesn't improve on anything the 8800 already did. I know the GX2 model for the 9800 (two cards fitted into one slot) is only slightly better than a single 8800 Ultra, so i figure that the 9800GTX and a 8800 GTX with 768MB would give almost the same, preformace. The 8800 might actually be better. There are cards better than a 8800 right now, but non of them are long term solutions, especially with DX 10.1 compatable cards comming out within the year. I'd stick with a 768MB 8800 GTX, unless the deal of the century comes your way on a better card.

[Guest Ellenberg]

Well, unless you're running Vista, DX10 is somewhat of a moot point, you're looking at what card offers the better DX9 performance. Having said that, if you are running Vista, the 9xxxx series is probably the better choice of card [i]at the moment[/i] because nVidia has put out some really [b]bad[/b] 8xxx drivers recently... and they haven't made new ones since December... somewhat dissapointing, apparently they are REALLY bad. Thankfully I'm on a 8600GTS and XP Pro. So I'm all good.

[Guest gamerk2]

[quote='RT.Penfold=US=','http://clanunknownsoldiers.com/hq/thread/?postID=28410#post28410']Well, unless you're running Vista, DX10 is somewhat of a moot point, you're looking at what card offers the better DX9 performance. Having said that, if you are running Vista, the 9xxxx series is probably the better choice of card [i]at the moment[/i] because nVidia has put out some really [b]bad[/b] 8xxx drivers recently... and they haven't made new ones since December... somewhat dissapointing, apparently they are REALLY bad. Thankfully I'm on a 8600GTS and XP Pro. So I'm all good.[/QUOTE] Same card as me at the moment. Yeah, NVIDIA's been busy with the 9000 series drivers recently (likely getting the 9800 GX2 drivers ready for some quad-GPU action :D), but i'd expect better 8000 series drivers soon.

[Guest Ellenberg]

Mmm...I hope so, supposedly there's a class-action lawsuit against 'em for the shoddy drivers. Anyway, my 8600GTS = BF2 on high = Good. :D

[Guest Doubleome]

Atm Im down to 2 cards I guess. a Zotac 8800GT 2000MHz 700MHz And the 8800GTX 1900MHz 570Mhz Atm got ati x1600 pro. So what ever I get ill notice the difference :) Prolly gonna run vista so DX10.

[Guest gamerk2]

ill look around tonight and try to find out whether the extra clock speed on the GT model or the extra RAM on the GTX model gives one of the cards an advantage over the other. I'm expecting that the GT model would do better at lower resolutions/lower anti-alising, but i'll see if i can find any proof of this.

[Guest Ellenberg]

The GT sports less RAM (256 as opposed to 320/640/768), which is why it's a little cheaper. Oh, and I believe it uses less processors/pipelines for rendering, but has faster clockspeeds... it's a great bang-for-buck... then again, the GTX has dropped in price a lot too... so both are good. You won't be dissapointed either way to be honest.

[Guest RET.Realgrunt=US=]

[quote='RT.Penfold=US=','http://clanunknownsoldiers.com/hq/thread/?postID=28480#post28480']The GT sports less RAM (256 as opposed to 320/640/768), which is why it's a little cheaper. Oh, and I believe it uses less processors/pipelines for rendering, but has faster clockspeeds... it's a great bang-for-buck... then again, the GTX has dropped in price a lot too... so both are good. You won't be dissapointed either way to be honest.[/QUOTE] Umm, My 8800GT is 512mb and smokes the GTX.

[Guest Ellenberg]

Oh yeah, the 512MB version does. The 256 version won't. lol. That's really weird though... new architecture? *shrug* Either way... this should help everyone. [url]http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics_2007.html?modelx=33&model1=706&model2=1057&chart=277[/url]

[Guest gamerk2]

Ahhh...thats the link I was looking for. I use that site for comparisons a lot, but was looking like mad for the link to compare two specific cards. I wish they added a CoD4 comparision though... As i expected, as you increase the resolution, the GTX models extra RAM pulls the card ahead. If you plan to run 1280x1024 resolution or less, the GT model is the better card. If you plan to run resolutions above 1280x1024, the GTX is the better card.