Building a Computer

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Made a few adjustments and wanted some input on if this would be ok.... CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition Thuban 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDT90ZFBGRBOX CPU Cooling: CORSAIR CAFA50 120mm CPU Cooler MB: MSI NF980-G65 AM3 NVIDIA nForce 980a SLI HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard GC: XFX HD-585X-ZAFC Radeon HD 5850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card w/ Eyefinity HDD: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive Power Supply: Rosewill Xtreme Series RX850-S-B 850W Continuous @40°C ,80 PLUS Certified, ATX12V v2.2 & EPS12V v2.91, SLI Ready CrossFire ... RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9S-4GBRL Case: RAIDMAX SMILODON ATX-612WB Black 1.0mm SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Foldout MB Computer Case DVD ROM: ASUS Black IDE DVD-ROM Drive Model DVD-E818A4/BLK/B/GEN DVD Burner: ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM What do you thing. Kind of on a budget so this all together with a 23" screen cost 1250.

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Can you throw prices on here so we can give some input on what u could remove and add? like i really think you should get a 5870. if you are going 5850, might as well get a 6870 what's up with the dvd rom?

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CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition Thuban 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDT90ZFBGRBOX 229.99 CPU Cooling: CORSAIR CAFA50 120mm CPU Cooler 37.49 MB: MSI NF980-G65 AM3 NVIDIA nForce 980a SLI HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard 159.99 GC: XFX HD-585X-ZAFC Radeon HD 5850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card w/ Eyefinity 229.99 HDD: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive 74.99 Power Supply: Rosewill Xtreme Series RX850-S-B 850W Continuous @40°C ,80 PLUS Certified, ATX12V v2.2 & EPS12V v2.91, SLI Ready CrossFire ... 99.99 RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9S-4GBRL 78.99 Case: RAIDMAX SMILODON ATX-612WB Black 1.0mm SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Foldout MB Computer Case 69.99 DVD ROM: ASUS Black IDE DVD-ROM Drive Model DVD-E818A4/BLK/B/GEN 18.99 DVD Burner: ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM 18.99 Other GC: HIS H687F1G2M Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity 239.99 SAPPHIRE 100290SR Radeon HD 5870 (Cypress XT) 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Eyefinity 6 Edition Video Card 369.99

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Well, 6870s are about the same as 5850s, and they are so close in price, i'd go for the newer model. You'll end up with better drivers which will probably push the performance eventually, plus amd is getting rid of the 58xx series once the 69xx release by the end of the year. The 5870 is still better than both tho, but obviously it's a big price jump. You could also consider a 5870 1GB those run around 240-250. That's a good price for the ram. You could probably mess around with the PSU a bit unless ur set on that one. I am pretty partial to modular PSU so you only connect the cords you need. Like this one: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182102&cm_re=modular_power_supply_800w-_-17-182-102-_-Product[/url] Don't know too much about the motherboard

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i can buy the 5870 2gb thats fine. Its not much higher. would it be a lot better? Is 800 watts good for my system?

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I think it's ok, are you planning on OCing or crossfiring? As long as u don't oc too much and don't crossfire u will be fine for sure. But even with slight oc and xfire u should be ok, but i don't know rosewill that well so i'm not 100% sure. [url]http://www.journeysystems.com/power_supply/[/url] [url]http://www.extreme.outervision.com/index.jsp[/url] But the main thing is at least 18a on the 12v rail, and make sure ur not maxing out both rails

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Eventaully i might. I wasn't going to oc or crossfire

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crossfire so isnt worth it, hardly does anything at all. at least not for me, i can run just one card on same performance. shame...

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kinda depends on your system, if ur bottlenecking in other places you won't see a huge increase. Also, if you are maxed out you won't see differences. what's your specs

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I changed the motherboard to Asus Crosshair IV because I hear good ratings on it.

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Asus Crosshair IV is good if your going to do alot of OCing. i mean ALOT. If not its not worth having top notch mobo for just standard settings. Do not get Nvidia base NB/SB chipset for AMD boards. Always get AMD based NB/SB chipset. 890fx with 850sb is curent top chipset. I have asus crosshair iv (I had NB temp problems i modded so it stable now) and gigabyte 890fxUD5 both good boards. only concern is the PSU .. ROsewell is ok with standard power but if ur going to go gaming ill go corsair,antec,thermaltake. Power Wattage isnt most important about psu but the company that makes it makes a huge difference. Corsair 600W is about the same as midrange name brand 800W. For hard drive ill invest on SSD or Samsung F3 Raid 0 config. 5870 to 6870 are very big video cards. make sure your case is big enough for proper airflow. I recommend cases where the psu is on the bottom. Lianli. Antec. Coolmaster HAF series. Corsair series are some good case. 5870 standard is 1gig. The 2 gig models are the Eye6 version or the special version that has 2x5870 on one card that cost around 1k.

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Ok... So here is what ive got changed and hopefully buying beginning of dec. COOLER MASTER HAF 922 ASUS M4A89TD PRO/USB3 AM3 AMD 890FX Thermaltake Toughpower XT TPX-775M 775W ATX 12V Modular G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition Thuban 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor SAPPHIRE 100290SR Radeon HD 5870 (Cypress XT) 2GB SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive eMachines E233Hbd Black 23" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor All for around 1400. This seems like a nice setup hopefully.

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eMachines is terrible IMO they use really shotty parts to keep their prices low. I wouldn't invest in them for a monitor. Unless they have a huge deal it won't be worth it.

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[quote='Capt.Xander=US=','http://clanunknownsoldiers.com/hq/thread/?postID=76731#post76731']eMachines is terrible IMO they use really shotty parts to keep their prices low. I wouldn't invest in them for a monitor. Unless they have a huge deal it won't be worth it.[/QUOTE] I second the IMO. I have known numerous people (luckily not me) who have had problems with eMachine equipment.

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[quote='LCpl.SKI.=US=','http://clanunknownsoldiers.com/hq/thread/?postID=76732#post76732']I second the IMO. I have known numerous people (luckily not me) who have had problems with eMachine equipment.[/QUOTE] I used to use an eMachines computer as a stool when I didnt have enough money for a chair. Thats pretty much all it was worth, and even that sucked! lol. (Even though computers aren't made to be chairs)

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yeah, there is a reason they are cheap. acer is actually decent if you are looking for a good deal. I got my 23" hd monitor for about $150 a year ago. But i'm looking at your model number, and that seems very similar to Acer's naming conventions. So... post a link to that monitor. It could just be a unbranded Acer. Also, if I were you I'd buy piece by piece unless you are waiting for some money to make this purchase. There should be a ton of good prices this week and next for BF/CM. Also, if you are waiting till Dec, the latest rumored release date of the 69xx are dec 13th. Even if you don't jump on one of them, it could drop the 5870 price. Oh yeah about the 5870, don't get the 2GB. It's a waste of money. Stick with the 5870 1GB, you will save close to $100. [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102883&cm_re=5870_1gb-_-14-102-883-_-Product[/url]

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Monitor: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824114004[/url] And why is the 2gb a waste?

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[url]http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-5870-eyefinity6,2595.html[/url] At 280 or whatever it's not a bad deal, but it's still unnecessary unless you are using ultra high resolutions with high AA. By ultra high, we're talking eyefinity high. 5760x1080 etc

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[quote='N2L fatality','http://clanunknownsoldiers.com/hq/thread/?postID=76935#post76935']Monitor: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824114004[/url] And why is the 2gb a waste?[/QUOTE] I take newegg reviews pretty well. When a product has almost 60, 5 egg reviews I would think its a decent product. I use those reviews as a large decision maker when i'm buying products.

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So its basically just an extra waste of power if im not running a high res. That makes sense. Yea i read the reviews quite abit for all my choices and they seem good.

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whats weird though is the 2 gb is only $50 dollars more with my CPU combo. 350 compared to 300 for a 1 gb.

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[quote='N2L fatality','http://clanunknownsoldiers.com/hq/thread/?postID=76968#post76968']So its basically just an extra waste of power if im not running a high res. That makes sense. Yea i read the reviews quite abit for all my choices and they seem good.[/QUOTE] Also, you can save the money and use it on something else.

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[quote='N2L fatality','http://clanunknownsoldiers.com/hq/thread/?postID=76969#post76969']whats weird though is the 2 gb is only $50 dollars more with my CPU combo. 350 compared to 300 for a 1 gb.[/QUOTE] Basically if you never hit the threshold on the 1 GB, 2 GB is still a waste. $50 isn't bad, but the question you have to ask is if you will ever hit that threshold. You can even save the $50 towards a second card to xfire in the future. Up to you.

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I personally would take the 2gb. You may not ever hit above 1gb but its there if you ever do. Bc2 uses i think a little above 512 on max settings. and that was with a BFG GTX 285 OCFU.. but my card died 4 times and bfg decided to go bankrupt so i ended up getting a 5770 and cant tell how much memory is being used now.

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[quote='RT.mental=US=','http://clanunknownsoldiers.com/hq/thread/?postID=77049#post77049']I personally would take the 2gb. You may not ever hit above 1gb but its there if you ever do. Bc2 uses i think a little above 512 on max settings. and that was with a BFG GTX 285 OCFU.. but my card died 4 times and bfg decided to go bankrupt so i ended up getting a 5770 and cant tell how much memory is being used now.[/QUOTE] You're comparing a 285 with a 5870. Ofc it seems like 2gb is better but you really won't hit it. Did you read the article? Check out the benchmarks on bc2. Maybe you're future proofing, but in time a second 5870 will go down and you can xfire. In your situation, given that a 285 is slightly better or equal to a 5770, my first guess would be power/temp issues rather than memory.